Popularity hasn't desensitized Tune-Yards frontwoman Merrill Garbus. Four years on from the commercially successful and socially conscious Nikki Nack
, Garbus and bassist Nate Brenner are back with a fourth album that gazes headlong into the catastrophe American life. I can feel you creep into my private life
finds Garbus speaking to white privilege, environmental disaster and social conditioning in concerned, sometimes apocalyptic tones.
It's not all doom and gloom, though. Tune-Yards' penchant for energetic, rhythm-oriented pop remains intact, but streamlined production and an increased emphasis on electronic beats make these new songs sleeker than anything else in the band's catalogue. This emphasis on dance music was crucial for Garbus to process the lyrical content. "I think it's necessary that the lyrics come from months and months writing what's going on with me," she says. "So I think for me to get through those feelings and those experiences, it's been kind necessary to dance my way through them." What are you up to?
I have a radio show on Red Bull Radio called C.L.A.W., which stands for "Collaborative Legions Artful Womxn," and we are about to release our first film score for a film called Sorry to Bother You.
That's probably enough, other than touring an album, right? What are your current fixations?
I am pretty obsessed with this book called Radical Dharma
by Rev. angel Kyodo Williams, Lama Rod Owens and Jasmine Syedullah], and looking at specifically how Buddhism instructs us on social justice. Why do you live where you do?
I moved to Oakland to come be with Nate Brenner, who is the other member Tune-Yards. I came out here to be with him, and I stayed because it is more invigorating and diverse, by which I mean majority African-American, and also representing more immigrant communities and languages and cultures than any other U.S. city. Name something you consider a mind-altering work art:
I was talking the other day about the Storm King sculpture park — I don't know if you've ever heard it. I'm going to say that] because its many sculptures, but it combines to create an atmosphere where your scale feels really different, as these sculptures are so huge that you start feeling very small. There are so many sculptures represented there. Alexander Calder's "The Arch" was the one I specifically remember, but I would say all them. What has been your most memorable or inspirational gig and why?
I would say, most recently, the Solange show at the Greek Theatre — the energy she brought and being able to feel the crowd and feel her relationship with the crowd, even in such a huge venue. Lately, that's been the most powerful experience. What have been your career highs and lows?
Career high: There have been lots them, but winning the "Pazz & Jop" poll], which is the Village Voice
's culmination all critical acclaim for a year. That was in 2011 or 2012.
Career low: I don't know. Probably playing to one college student at a gig when I was first starting Tune-Yards. An audience one. What's the meanest thing ever said to you before, during or after a gig?
I have no idea. I'm sure people say many mean things about me that I am unable to hear. What should everyone shut up about?
It's not ten that I would tell people to shut up, but I think people ten need to check themselves when they are standing in judgment other people on social media. What traits do you most like and most dislike about yourself?
I like that I'm generous. I don't like that I sometimes consider other people's needs before my own. What's your idea a perfect Sunday?
Sleeping in, walking around Lake Merritt, which is near our house here in Oakland, and going to our favourite breakfast spot. What advice should you have taken, but did not?
I don't listen to anybody's advice, and then I regret it later on, but I would say probably caring what other people think about me. I have been advised by so many people to just focus on my work and not get bogged down by other people's opinions, and I think it's only recently that I've come to understand the difference between taking in criticism and worrying about what people think about me. What would make you kick someone out your band and/or bed, and have you?
I guess disrespect. And no, so far we have not kicked anyone out the band, nor bed, for that. What do you think when you think Canada?
Happy times. I spent a lot time in Montreal when I started Tune-Yards. Tune-Yards wouldn't exist without Montreal, and without my friends and without the camaraderie and the way people support each other in art there. What was the first LP/cassette/CD/eight track you ever bought with your own money?
I'm going to say Thriller
. I'm not sure if it was with my own money, because I was very young, but I have a feeling my parents probably had some kind allowance system through which I could get such a thing. You know what, I take that back. It was the cassingle Björk's "Human Behavior," now that I think about it. What was your most memorable day job?
House cleaner. I was doing that when I was a puppeteer, which was pre-Tune-Yards. I mean, you never forget cleaning people's houses, and long hours spent wishing I was doing something else. How do you spoil yourself?
Espresso. If I wasn't playing music I would be…
I would be committing more time to activist, social justice causes. What do you fear most?
Disconnection between humans. Not understanding each other to such an extent that we commit violent acts on each other. What has been your strangest celebrity encounter?
We saw David Hasselhf at Coachella one year, and that was pretty bizarre. I think that I sat on his lap. Who would be your ideal dinner guest, living or dead, and what would you serve them?
I think Lotte Lenya and Bertolt Brecht the German theatre. And what would I serve them? I suppose I'd serve them the closest thing to German food that I could muster up. What does your mom wish you were doing instead?
I don't think she does. She's also a musician, so I think I'm doing something that she's at least mildly familiar with. What song would you like to have played at your funeral?
"Radio Generation" by Pat Jordache — he's my good friend up in Montreal. Because I hope that if I die before Patrick, that he will be at my funeral, and because it's one those songs that speaks to community, and to the community that brought me up, and that communities are possible, and the possibility a love community. Tune-Yards' new album
I can feel you creep into my private life is out January 19 on 4AD. They play Vancouver on February 27, Toronto on March 6 and Montreal on March 7.