“Building a relationship with him was kind of like a case study, man,” he explained. “The challenge to me is building a relationship with somebody, coexisting with somebody, who you know you might have conflicting ideologies with. It’s somebody who you may not necessarily have a relationship with if it weren’t for the music space. I’m intrigued by that, ’cause I think he’s such an incredible lyricist and I think he’s so different from me.
He added: “But I think that through music we can find the neutral things that we agree on, and we can also learn to agree to disagree on the things we don’t agree on, without having to try to change how each other feels. And to me, that’s the ultimate way of building solidarity.”
Royce Da 5’9 recalled Lupe Fiasco yelling at him while recording their podcast, which led to telling Lupe to “calm down” and calling him a “bitch.”
“Do I regret it? I don’t know if ‘regret’ is the right word, but I’m not happy about saying that, ’cause I don’t think he’s a bitch,” he admitted. “I don’t think we should speak to each other that way, but I do understand why I said it, ’cause it was just a reaction. It was a point that I got pushed to, and I feel like I gave a lot of warning points.
“I gave a lot of lead into it, and that’s me knowing myself. If it gets to a point where I start getting upset, I’ma just react and then I’ma go outside of my body. I’ma vibrate lower, I’ma start doing shit that’s not really reflective of the way I wanna evolve.”
He continued: “I don’t feel good about it. I think I would regret it if he had apologized, then I definitely would apologize, and then it would go down as a regret. But as of right now, like the way that everything got kinda summed up, it is what it is, but I don’t feel good about it.”
Royce Da 5’9 admitted he likes Lupe Fiasco despite their disagreements, but they still haven’t spoken since falling out.
Lupe Fiasco announced the end of the podcast on Instagram Live in July 2021, stating he now had an “untenable relationship” with Royce Da 5’9.
“I think [The Lupe & Royce Show] is done,” Lupe said at the time. “It’s not something that my heart was 100 percent in the podcast, and I think we just reached the state now where it’s an untenable relationship, so I appreciate the last episode went up today. I think sometimes it’s good to just go out on top.
“It’s not something that’s done out of ill will. This is something that’s kind of been building for a little bit. And again, my heart wasn’t 100 percent in the podcast with Royce, without Royce, by myself on my own.”